Speech by Sheila McKechnie
Sheila McKechnie
Director, Consumers' Association, UK
It's a cliché, but I think we all have to try and recognise
that the world is not only changing faster, it is changing in very complex
ways. Speed, however, throws up a number of major issues which I think
underpin some of the problems that have been addressed this morning.
In many ways our political institutions at national, European, US government
and global level are adapting too slowly to this new world. But global
economic institutions have been there for some time and are setting the
agenda. The dislocation between economic priorities and social, cultural,
democratic and indeed every non-economic priority is the key tension in
the future of our global environment. I would like to illustrate that
very briefly by telling you a story. When Consumers International met
in South Korea the words `IMF babies' were constantly cropping up in the
press. For those of you who wonder what that means, let me tell you. The
families inside Korea, who in many ways have family traditions and responsibilities
that are much more robust than many of ours, were leaving children at
orphanages because they could not afford to feed them. And the citizens
of South Korea called these the IMF babies. Now that is not a world that
any of our consumer groups affiliated to Consumers International want
to live in. Economic decisions alone will not produce a more democratic
world.
The complexity of change raises a whole series of other matters. The
digital and the biotechnical revolutions are going to result in the kinds
of shifts that we experienced during the industrial revolution. Many organisations
have been very slow to understand the impact that this is going to have
on the lives of the ordinary consumer. And just so that the government
representatives here don't think that we consumer organisations claim
to know all the answers, I can say that the changing nature of those global
pressures is making us, as consumer organisations, look at our activities.
If we cannot actually meet the needs of our consumer constituents, then
we will not survive as organisations, just as businesses that fail to
recognise the nature of the changing market place will not survive.
There is a sea change going on in the nature of consumerism which I
think is important to understand. The model that my organisation had,
the model that CU had, the model that many other European consumer bodies
had was to give consumers high-quality information and allow the consumer
to make the choice. The assumption was that the market works if there
is a clear balance of information between the producer and the consumer.
That simple model is no longer relevant. Our consumers want more than
that from us.
If I take the difficult issue of food, what does it mean to a consumer
to say `you can choose'? How many of us here in the next two days have
any real control over what we put in our mouths? Yes, we can choose to
eat meat or choose not to eat meat. But all of us here are dependent on
the regulatory framework of the Belgian state to make sure that the food
we eat over the next 24 hours doesn't actually poison us. The individual
consumer cannot look at an egg and say, `This is safe' or `This is not
safe'. So the challenge for consumer organisations is to assist consumers
in a much more active way. Many of us are experimenting with how this
can be done.
In the public policy arena consumer organisations are taking over those
issues where individual consumer choice cannot prevail. Where the individual
has no real choice, then we are the key organisations in civic society
to engage with business, with governments, to make sure the level of protection
is sufficiently high.
So the new model of consumerism is participative, interactive. And
we consumer bodies are also players in the market place. My organisation
is an internet service provider. So the problem of what is possible in
terms of consumer protection in the market place is not an abstract issue.
Other consumer organisations are moving in a similar direction, towards
a more interactive relationship with the wider consumer world.
We want to shape this new world that we are living in and the transatlantic
dialogue we are currently engaged in is a key part of that shaping process.
And if you will allow me for just a minute to get on my Scottish soapbox,
there has to be respect for difference. We European consumer organisations
operate in15 countries and 15 languages; we know we have different political
cultures, we know our consumers have different priorities, we have to
learn to talk to each other. And we each have to learn that `my' way is
not always the only way.
If you are going to respect difference, you must understand it. It
might seem very odd to you Americans, but let me illustrate this. I don't
think I understood the iconography of your Constitution. Why should I?
The UK doesn't have one. That isn't how `my' democracy works. The statements
that come from the American delegation about trade issues affecting or
overriding the American Constitution is a concept that we Europeans have
some difficulty with. It's not that we don't appreciate the points you
are making, we have a different approach and different political cultures.
We have to learn to listen to each other. And I think the respect for
difference is essential. Without it, and without the dialogue, we cannot
have a safer and better world environment.
I think we have to say to our respective governments that the dialogue
to date has been a great disappointment to consumers. I haven't seen any
evidence that the dialogue was anything other than liberalisation of trade,
or, to use your word, `deregulation'. Liberalisation and deregulation
have become one and the same thing in many of these trade issues and that
means a decline in consumer protection. But what happened to human rights?
What happened to children's rights? What happened to public health? What
happened to education? What happened to peace and security? All these
things were said in 1995 to be key issues in the dialogue.
I don't think the governments fully understand the imbalance of resources
between the business community and the consumer community. We are not-for-profit
organisations. Many of us are dependent on state funding. Many of us do
not have means of generating resources. But if you let that dictate the
level of our participation, then you will reap the whirlwind. And as GATT
moves beyond trade liberalisation into national regulatory issues, its
activities are affecting the day-to-day quality of life for individual
consumers in our countries. Governments cannot do that without the acquiescence
of consumers.
Let me illustrate how governments get it wrong. Take the issue of GMOs.
This, from the European perspective, has shifted our attitude to trade
in a way that no other issue has. One global multi-national company, Monsanto,
said, `We are going to introduce a genetically modified crop and we are
going to mix it with unmodified crops to produce a wholesale commodity
crop, and we are not going to allow suppliers to have non-GM soya.'
The arrogance and the stupidity of that statement may well have set
back the bio-tech industry for years. And it wasn't for want of telling
them. I was in a meeting two or three years ago with the European Director
of Monsanto and I said, as we all said, `This is going to end in tears'.
If Monsanto was Carrefour, the big French supermarket chain, or if it
were Tesco, the big British supermarket, it would be out of business now!
Both Carrefour and Tesco have had to bow to consumer pressure or consumers
would be boycotting their stores. The same applies to all EU food manufacturers
and retail outlets.
I only had to write a very polite mild letter to Niall FitzGerald of
Unilever and within three days Unilever was practically camping in my
building, saying `What do you want us to do?' EU consumers have market
power and if governments don't understand that and businesses don't understand
that, let GMOs and Monsanto be a lesson to you. Because what we have done
with Monsanto, we will do again.
Now that has to be, in some sense, a threat, because you have to understand
that we are not here just to make speeches or make high-flown statements
of principle. Indeed all principles taken to extreme become absurd. The
world functions because we have to reconcile principles and negotiate
compromises. We don't all get what we want all the time. But you have
to negotiate with us or we will just shout louder and we will use our
market power. And we are uneasy bedfellows - we know that. We're prickly,
we're difficult, we're argumentative.
Sometimes, we consumer organisations are accused of not representing
anybody but ourselves. That is unfair but the legitimacy of our organisations
has to be part of this whole equation. Be warned - we have shown what
can be done. The statement from the American government spokesperson on
GMOs, which I felt was scientifically illiterate and intellectually infantile
in terms of labelling, was not what we wanted to hear. Is the USA government
really arguing that we have to have GM food until science shows there
is a problem? Remember that we in the UK had BSE, and my government said:
`There is no evidence that BSE can jump over species barriers, there is
no evidence of harm.' The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
The key element is the testing procedures. The Food and Drugs Administration
procedures for GM foods are inadequate and in our opinion based on the
wrong scientific model. We do not find theirs an acceptable approach.
But we are not against the new technology. We are not dinosaurs. We
don't want to turn the clock back. We like this new world. For example,
we love e-commerce. It has great potential to give my organisation power
to bust some of the monopolies in Britain. We can't wait.
We've broken the cartels in the washing machine market. We are in the
process of doing the same in the car market. We're having great fun. And
the internet and e-commerce are going to be key for controlling monopoly
power in the market place. Even so, caution is needed, so we will be discussing
data protection issues later today.
To summarise, what we want from this process is to make the Dialogue
meaningful. And Dialogue isn't about making speeches. So although you've
had to listen to them this morning, dialogue is really about listening
and engaging.
I hope my point about understanding differences informs the way we
deal with each other over the next few days. But I want to say more than
that. Going right back to the point at the beginning about the speed of
change, the complexity of change and the slowness of institutions to respond,
this Dialogue could become a model for ways in which governments do their
proper job. The job of government is not to promote the interests of global
business. The job of government is to balance the interests of business
and consumers and to be fair. One of my colleagues said, `Oh, you can't
use the word partnership, you'll sound like Tony Blair.' Sorry about that,
but partnership is rather a good word. We don't expect to get everything
we want, but we don't expect to be patronised. We want to be part of the
negotiations. We have the scientific base to do so; we have the research
base, we have the understanding, we have the legitimacy to represent your
consumers and you need us, but we also need you.
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